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Season 2 in production • Returning Fall 2026

Podcast series

The Lever Show

The future of work, one lever at a time. Join host Drew Fortin as we dissect the impact of technology, strategy, and HR practices leading us toward co-intelligence.

Showing 60 episodes

The Lever Report · Episode 31Technology 12 min AI Skepticism and Maximizing Your ROI in the Workplace Drew Fortin covers McDonalds and Taxed Tips, AI Skepticism vs The Science, Senate Report on AI and The ROI of Culture and Compensation. The Lever Report · Episode 30Technology 9 min AI Workslop and AI Adoption Drew Fortin covers Workday's AI Adoption, Combatting AI Workslop, AI Evaluation Framework and How Prepared are CEOs for Digital Labor. The Lever Report · Episode 29Technology 9 min AI is Making Waves and the Market Takes a Dip Drew Fortin covers Accenture Looks to AI, Indeed AI at Work Report, AI in L&D and The Short Term Effects of LLMs. The Lever Report · Episode 28Programs 8 min Rate Cuts and Workplace Civility Drew Fortin covers Workplace Civility, RTO vs WFH, Employee Mindset Study and How People Use ChatGPT. The Lever Report · Episode 27Programs 9 min A Leadership Trait You Haven't Considered and RTO at AT&T Drew Fortin covers RTO at AT&T, Humor in the Workplace, The AI Recruiter and Political Divide in the Workplace. The Lever Report · Episode 26Technology 8 min A Jobs Report Reality Check and AI in the Workplace Drew Fortin covers OpenAI Joins the Hiring Market, The Use of AI Has Become the Rule and Leading in the Era of AI. The Lever Report · Episode 25Technology 9 min Interest Rate Cuts and AI in Business Drew Fortin covers AI and Outsourcing, AI vs Human Recruiters, AI Compliance Training and The State of AI in Business. The Lever Report · Episode 24Programs 8 min Inflation Fears and The Worker Happiness Crisis Drew Fortin covers Tech Job Concerns, CEOs and Workplace Culture, Employee Happiness Crisis and AI's Effect on Employment. The Lever Report · Episode 23Technology 9 min How AI is Changing Consulting and Entry Level Work Drew Fortin covers AI is Coming for Consultants, Entry-Level Jobs are Disappearing and Rethinking Employee Empowerment. The Lever Report · Episode 22Technology 8 min CEO Backpedaling and How We Can Recover From AI Drew Fortin covers Bolt CEO Backpedals and How to Recover From AI. The Lever Report · Episode 21Technology 8 min Tariff Tensions and AI Chatbots Drew Fortin unpacks the week in talent strategy: Tariff Tensions and AI Chatbots. The Lever Report · Episode 20Technology 8 min Tariff Troubles and AI in the Workplace Drew Fortin covers Glassdoor and Indeed Layoffs, How AI is Reshaping Jobs and Employee Confidence Drops. The Lever Report · Episode 19Programs 9 min A Surprising Jobs Report, AIs Effect on Morale, and the End of L&D Drew Fortin covers Meta vs OpenAI, AI Reshaping Organizations and The Future of L&D. The Lever Report · Episode 18Technology 10 min Salesforce gets into AI and the Management Meltdown Crisis Drew Fortin covers Salesforce Goes Big on AI, How Can HR Confront the Workplace Skills Gap and The Management Meltdown Crisis. The Lever Report · Episode 17Technology 10 min AI at Amazon, Org Designs to Meet the Moment, and AI's Effect on HR Drew Fortin covers AI at Amazon, The Latest Work Trend Index from Microsoft, McKinsey on Creating Effective Opereating Models and Will AI Take Your Job?. The Lever Report · Episode 16Technology 8 min Geopolitical Tension, Changes on Wall Street, and an AI Paradox Drew Fortin unpacks the week in talent strategy: Geopolitical Tension, Changes on Wall Street, and an AI Paradox. The Lever Report · Episode 15Technology 10 min Culture Debt at Tesla, C-Suite and HR, and How AI Changes Leadership Drew Fortin covers the cooling job market, the culture debt at Tesla, the C-Suite's poor perception of the importance of HR, and how AI is changing the career ... The Lever Report · Episode 14Technology 9 min Market Falls, AI and White Collar Jobs, and What Makes a CEO Great Drew Fortin covers the market falling flat, what AI will do to white collar jobs, what makes a CEO great, and the cost of conflict in the workplace. The Lever Report · Episode 13Technology 9 min Tariff Threats, Managerial Flattening, and Agentic AI Drew Fortin covers new tariff threats hitting the market, the managerial flattening that is hitting the tech industry, how agentic AI will be affecting your ... The Lever Report · Episode 12Technology 9 min Target's Struggles, AI's and Engineering, and Talent Revelations Drew Fortin covers the ongoing market uncertainty, Target's ongoing struggles, AI's effects on engineering, news on return to office, and a new CEO survey with ... The Lever Report · Episode 11Technology 10 min Insights from Amazon, A Crisis in the Workforce, and AI Coaching Drew Fortin covers the ongoing tension in global trade, insights from Amazon's CEO, a crisis in the US workforce, humanity's role in the world of AI, and how ... The Lever Report · Episode 10Technology 6 min Market Rebound, CEOs Turn to AI, and Burnout in the Workplace Drew Fortin covers the market's rebound amid the newest job report, how CEOs are turning to AI, why younger employees are feeling burnt out, and how to be an ... The Lever Report · Episode 09Technology 8 min Marriott Takes a Stand and Why is HR Lagging Behind in AI Usage Drew Fortin covers the continuing volatility and shifting sentiment in the US stock market, Microsoft allegedly paying low performers to quit, Marriott's CEO ... The Lever Report · Episode 08Technology 8 min Tariff Troubles, Lessons From Layoffs, and AI Expertise Drew Fortin covers the continuing market uncertainty, using Artificial Intelligence as a backfill, lessons from the federal mass layoffs, and the importance of ... The Lever Report · Episode 07Technology 9 min AI-led Automation and The Science Behind High Performance Drew Fortin covers the growing tariff-focused trade war, AI-led automation, equity in the workforce, the science of sustainable high performance, and how to ... The Lever Report · Episode 06Technology 9 min Corporate Espionage, Understanding Your ROI, and AI Opportunity Gaps Drew Fortin covers the continuing volatility of the US Stock Market amid new tariffs, a case of espionage between two HR tech companies, the importance of ... The Lever Report · Episode 05Programs 8 min Consumer Confidence Drops, Disney Shifts on DEI, and New SHRM Report Drew Fortin covers the continuing uncertainty around the stock market, the drop in consumer confidence, Disney's shift on DEI, insights from SHRM's 2025 State ... The Lever Report · Episode 04Programs 10 min The Tech Culture Shift and the Changing Roles of CHRO's Drew Fortin covers updates on the stock market, how large tech companies' cultures are shifting, the changing role of the CHRO, what can happen after ... The Lever Report · Episode 03Programs 10 min Costco Strikes a Deal, Federal Workforce Cuts, and Employee Wellness Drew Fortin covers the US Stock Market entering correction territory, Costco's new employee deal, the continuing federal workforce cuts and what they mean for ... The Lever Report · Episode 02Technology 9 min The Advantages of Flex Work, Google Quiet Quits, and AI Adoption Drew Fortin covers the most recent US Jobs Report, the business advantages of flex work, Google's quiet quitting on DEI efforts, and how leadership affects AI ... The Lever Report · Episode 01Technology 4 min DEI Gets a Rebrand, AI Changes Productivity, and RTO Requirements Drew Fortin covers American stock markets closing at a low in February, companies rebranding their DEI efforts, artificial intelligence's effect on workplace ... InterviewPeople 30 min Deborah Kurtz on Recruiting, Career Success and Staying Human Deborah shares her perspective as a recruiter, saying recruiters actually help companies build jobs rather than help candidates find jobs. Deborah Kurtz Recruiter InterviewTechnology 43 min The Future of Web 3.0: Shermin Voshmgir on Decentralization and Blockchain Networks In this engaging conversation, Drew Fortin sits down with Shermin Voshmgir, the founder of Token Kitchen, to discuss the potential of Web 3.0 and its impact on ... Shermin Voshmgir Founder, Token Kitchen InterviewTechnology 31 min Leveraging New Technology to Be a Better Leader The tectonic plates of work are shifting before our eyes. Meg Patel joins us with over 20 years of talent development experience to help us make sense of it ... Meg Patel Talent Development Consultant InterviewTechnology 41 min Ford's Innovation and Inclusion: Lori Costew on the Journey Towards Human-Centered Technology Design Join Drew Fortin in an engaging conversation with Lori Costew, former Chief Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Officer at Ford Motor Company, as they delve into ... Lori Costew Former Chief DEI Officer, Ford Motor Company InterviewTechnology 34 min How does AI affect upskilling workers? with Carol Meyers In this interview, Carol Meyers discusses the impact of AI on the workforce and how humans will adapt. Carol Meyers General Partner, Glasswing Ventures InterviewTechnology 28 min Transforming the Employer-Employee Relationship and the Role of Technology with Steve Callan Join Drew Fortin as he sits down with Steve Callan, CTO of KingsCrowd, to explore the changing dynamics in the employer-employee relationship due to part-time ... Steve Callan CTO, KingsCrowd InterviewPeople 33 min Reimagining Workplace Connections: A Conversation with Emily Harburg from PairUp In this episode, Emily Harburg discusses the future of work and technology. Emily Harburg CEO & Co-founder, PairUp InterviewPrograms 38 min Preparing for the Jobs of Tomorrow - A Conversation with Jeff Cassidy Jeff Cassidy, CFO of Flatiron School, joins the podcast to discuss the future of work. Jeff Cassidy CFO, Flatiron School InterviewPeople 42 min Data on the Future of Work: Bledi Taska on Labor Trends & What it means for CEOs Bledi Taska, Chief Economist at Lightcast, joins the podcast to discuss trends in the evolving labor market. Bledi Taska Chief Economist, Lightcast InterviewPeople 46 min Revolutionizing the Employee Experience: Greg Barnett, Chief People Scientist at Energage In this conversation, Greg Barnett shares his expertise on employee engagement, performance management, and preparing for the future of work. Greg Barnett Chief People Scientist, Energage InterviewTechnology 29 min The Future of Robotics and AI: Enhancing Human Potential with Fady Saad Back into the future of robotics, Drew Fortin sits down with Fady Saad, co-founder of MassRobotics and Cybernetics Ventures. Fady Saad General Partner, Cybernetix Ventures InterviewTechnology 34 min The Future of Work: Technology, Labor Trends, and Economic Dynamism In this exclusive interview, Drew Fortin sits down with Adam Ozimek, Chief Economist at Economic Innovation Group, to delve deep into the changing dynamics of ... Adam Ozimek Chief Economist, Economic Innovation Group InterviewTechnology 37 min Unlocking the Potential of AI-Driven Tools for Increased Productivity and Employee Retraining Charlie Olson, co-founder of Pando Pooling, on AI-driven productivity, retraining existing staff, and a model where professionals pool their future career ... Charlie Olson Co-founder, Pando Pooling InterviewTechnology 23 min Unlocking the Potential of AI in Business: A Candid Conversation with Avi Goldfarb Join Drew Fortin as he sits down with Avi Goldfarb, renowned economist and professor at the University of Toronto, for an insightful conversation on the ... Avi Goldfarb Rotman Chair in AI, University of Toronto InterviewTechnology 29 min The Impact of AI on the Job Market: Meghan Keaney Anderson Discusses Enhancing Human Work with AI In this insightful conversation, Drew Fortin sits down with Meghan Keaney Anderson from Jasper.ai to discuss the impact of artificial intelligence (AI) on the ... Meghan Keaney Anderson VP of Marketing, Jasper InterviewTechnology 27 min How will humans and technology interact in the future? Tech journalist legend John Markoff sat down with Drew Fortin to chat about how Markoff went from covering the early days of Silicon Valley to winning a ... John Markoff HAI Research Affiliate, Stanford InterviewTechnology 36 min Unlocking the Future of Work: AI, Employee Engagement, and Upskilling ft. Vivek Mehta Welcome to post-season, where we'll be uploading an interview from S1 of The Lever Show TWICE a week instead of once. Vivek Mehta CEO, Weeve InterviewTechnology 31 min Navigating the Future of Work: AI, Gig Economy, and Employer Relationships with William Tincup What do you get when a futurist talent agency owner & a editor-in-chief at a major recruiting publication walk into a bar? William Tincup Founder, RecruiterDaily Episode 06People 18 min Career GPS The Season 1 finale explores portable performance management, personalised development and a future where every worker has a 'career GPS' showing their market ... InterviewTechnology 38 min Exploring the Future of AI and Entrepreneurship with Jenny Larios Berlin Join Drew Fortin as he sits down with Jenny Larios Berlin, Entrepreneur in residence at the Martin Trust Center for MIT Entrepreneurship, to discuss the ... Jenny Larios Berlin Entrepreneur in Residence, Martin Trust Center for MIT Entrepreneurship Episode 05Programs 22 min Moneyball for Business Borrowing from baseball's data revolution, Drew Fortin explores how AI, blockchain and Web3 could replace the resume with portable, data-backed proof of skill. InterviewTechnology 32 min The Future of Robotics in Manufacturing with Joyce Sidopolous In one of our favorite conversations, Joyce Sidopolous, Co-Founder of Mass Robotics, delves into the significant impact of incorporating robots in ... Joyce Sidopolous Co-founder & COO, MassRobotics Episode 04People 20 min What is the Value of A Human at Work? In a world driven by AI, what makes a person valuable? Guests point to judgment, leadership, networks, strategic thinking and creativity. InterviewPeople 50 min Exploring the Future of Work with Shuo Chen: IOVC Partner & UC Berkeley Faculty Join us in this episode as Drew Fortin interviews Shuo Chen, partner at IOVC and faculty member at UC Berkeley. Shuo Chen General Partner, IOVC; UC Berkeley Faculty Episode 03Technology 20 min How Technology Will Forever Change Business Structure Shuo Chen, Joyce Sidopolous, Cory Hymel, Meghan Keaney Anderson and others map how AI, automation and Web3 will restructure the business itself — from ... InterviewTechnology 30 min Unlocking the Future of Work: AI, Web 3, and Distributed Teams with Cory Hymel Join Drew Fortin in an insightful conversation with Cory Hymel, VP of Product and Research at Gigster, as they explore the transformative power of AI, Web 3, ... Cory Hymel VP of Product, Gigster Episode 02Technology 17 min Are Workers Being Replaced By Technology? Experts including Avi Goldfarb and Fady Saad separate the Hollywood version of AI and robotics from the reality — and explain why humans remain essential to ... InterviewTechnology 55 min Future Work Trends and AI Impact with Economist Liz Wilke In this insightful interview, economist Liz Wilke from Gusto dives into major labor trends and discusses the rise of contracting, freelance work, and remote ... Liz Wilke Principal Economist, Gusto Episode 01People 13 min Fragmented Future Host Drew Fortin opens Season 1 by tracing how each technological leap has reshaped the worker's role — and why fractional and freelance work are rising as the ...

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